After doing extensive research on different machines I chose to upgrade to the Quickmill Vetrano 2b. Prior to this machine I had the Lelit PL041QE for four years. I've had the V2B for three months now and I couldn't be happier. I fully plumbed the machine using Chris' softening and filtration kit. The machine is quiet, it heats up fast and recovery time between shots is minimal. I use the machine several times a day for my wife and myself and always make coffee for guests. Everyone is always really pleased. I don't think I will ever need to upgrade to another machine.